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Post by Mark Iron on Sept 25, 2006 5:05:59 GMT
believe me, it annoys me. personally, I didn't care about the whole "happy holidays" thing last christmas. Though it does annoy me when I hear pcness during church (usually taking word man out of hymms and changing it to god). annoys me to no bloody end. for example.
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Post by Alaric on Sept 25, 2006 8:07:18 GMT
And yes, I would consider James to be a bit metrosexual. Well actually that was meant to be a pun based on Metro trains and...you know what? Forget it.
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Post by Cranky Conner on Sept 25, 2006 15:50:34 GMT
So there are people who want Easter Bunny got rid of. My question is though, how is Easter Bunny a metaphor for Jesus? Of course they do. Ever heard of 'Metrosexual'? *Rimshot* Thank you, I'm here all week! I swear I've heard that on London Tonight, and it's one of the columns of the London Metro. (sorry is this is all off topic) because who on Earth says 'Happy holidays' to anyone in real life? Shopkeepers in Walmart were saying it to shoppers last Christmas, Dr. James Dobson mentioned this on Focus On The Family (Christian Radio Programme) and said to his listeners that they should tell the people at Walmart to stop "insulting their intelligence" by using *that* phrase .
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Post by FlyingScotsman on Sept 26, 2006 9:32:19 GMT
"Happy holidays!" "Stop insulting my intelligence by using that phrase!" "All right, dude, no need to be a jerk about it. I'm just doing my job, you know? I'm following the rules the shop gives me. What would you prefer? Merry Christmas? I don't know, you could be Jewish or Muslim, then I'd get in trouble. Tell you what, I'll say Merry Christmas, someone can take offence and I'll be sacked. Would you like that? In any case, I don't see how I'm 'insulting your intelligence', perhaps you'd care to explain how your intelligence is insulted by a multi-faith greeting. Oh wait, it isn't. You're just using a stock response to something you don't like, not actually bothering to think things through. Get out of my sight. You make me sick."
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Post by bobwinkle007 on Sept 26, 2006 23:05:40 GMT
"Happy holidays!" "Stop insulting my intelligence by using that phrase!" "All right, dude, no need to be a jerk about it. I'm just doing my job, you know? I'm following the rules the shop gives me. What would you prefer? Merry Christmas? I don't know, you could be Jewish or Muslim, then I'd get in trouble. Tell you what, I'll say Merry Christmas, someone can take offence and I'll be sacked. Would you like that? In any case, I don't see how I'm 'insulting your intelligence', perhaps you'd care to explain how your intelligence is insulted by a multi-faith greeting. Oh wait, it isn't. You're just using a stock response to something you don't like, not actually bothering to think things through. Get out of my sight. You make me sick." Good post.
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Post by Blue Comet on Sept 27, 2006 0:43:44 GMT
I think it was pretty stupid that President Bush had to call his Christmas tree a "Holiday tree". Come on, the dude is Christian and celebrates Christmas, therefor it's a Christmas tree.
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Post by FlyingScotsman on Sept 27, 2006 8:50:16 GMT
Thanks. But I don't think I'll be getting a job at Wal-Mart any time soon.
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Post by Cranky Conner on Sept 27, 2006 16:41:57 GMT
Er, I think I may have misquoted Dr. Dobson there. I think what he was trying to say was that we should tell people in high places that ethnic minorities aren't necessarily offended (last year, the Daily Mail reported that the nativity play was under threat. Why? The PC people were complaining schools weren't giving other hols the same attention, and said the nativivity would offend ethnic minorities). I apologise if I have caused anyone distress.
BTW, in that same prog, Dr. Dobson mentioned a singer (can't remember who) joked the film "Miracle on 34th Street" was to be renamed something like "Coincidence a few streets down from 38th Street " (I remember the word coincidence, but not the rest of it. See if you can guess why I stuck 38 and not 34...)
Then I advise you not to get a job at ASDA either (which is owned by Wal-mart)
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Post by Skarloey on Sept 27, 2006 17:54:13 GMT
The fact is, this country's state religion is Christianity. No reason why the majority should have anything to do with celebrations that are not of their or their country's religion.
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Post by gotSTEAM? on Sept 27, 2006 19:58:11 GMT
In my town, and the surrounding areas, people are trying to press laws to ban people from displaying the Nativity Scene in their front yards. In my neighbourhood, one cannot put such things on their lawn (I live in a townhouse), but in other seperate homes close by, lots of people set up the Nativity at Christmastime.
The last holiday season saw a LOT of reports where Nativities were either damaged, stolen, or completely torn apart...it's a shame, we never hear about lights or other decorations, even other religous symbols that have nothing to do with Christianinity being defaced or things of the like. I don't get it...
Interestingly, though...last year at Christmas the Mosque by my house was spraypainted with Anarchy symbols, amongst other things that are not typable ^^'
~Elizabeth
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Post by bobwinkle007 on Sept 27, 2006 23:36:31 GMT
Yeah, they are. That's why political correctness exists. GotSteam, that sounds terrible. It's hard to believe that people would actually vandalise a mosque or nativity scene.
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Post by inuprincess on Sept 28, 2006 3:28:34 GMT
In my town, and the surrounding areas, people are trying to press laws to ban people from displaying the Nativity Scene in their front yards. In my neighbourhood, one cannot put such things on their lawn (I live in a townhouse), but in other seperate homes close by, lots of people set up the Nativity at Christmastime. The last holiday season saw a LOT of reports where Nativities were either damaged, stolen, or completely torn apart...it's a shame, we never hear about lights or other decorations, even other religous symbols that have nothing to do with Christianinity being defaced or things of the like. I don't get it... Interestingly, though...last year at Christmas the Mosque by my house was spraypainted with Anarchy symbols, amongst other things that are not typable ^^' ~Elizabeth Wow, you live with some damn evil people. They really need to get a life...what state is this anyway? o.o
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Post by bulker on Sept 29, 2006 10:32:46 GMT
As Elliot said, this is a Christian country, and our whole way of life is based on Christianity, from our customs, our laws and even our week. As a practicing Christian myself, I find it a little offensive that our festivals should be toned down, re-named or banned or whatever. Most non-Christians who come to live in this country accept our traditions and are happy to live them. It is a minority on the left, who, unfortunatley, many seem to be in power, be it government or council, are obsessed with treading on egg shells for these people. There is nothing wrong with being Polically Incorrect. There is a huge difference between Political incorrectness and racism. Frankly, I despise Political Correctness, always have, and I feel that, along with Health and Safety, it's killing our country.
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Post by Mafew on Sept 29, 2006 12:42:12 GMT
Bulker if it wasn't for the health and safety act in the kitchens, I could of spread flu to a LOT of people, if the H&S act wasn't there we'd be in trouble..
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Post by Cranky Conner on Sept 29, 2006 16:04:01 GMT
Health and Safety, like Political Correctness, was initially a good idea, but is now a hindrance e.g. playground equipment being removed coz they're too dangerous and children might sue. I think it's best discussed in a separate topic.
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Post by FlyingScotsman on Oct 2, 2006 9:35:20 GMT
I think that people do tend to make a little too much of political correctness, though. After all, in the great majority of places they do celebrate Christmas rather than "holidays". Really, there's nothing to fear. But I think we need to look at this from both perspectives.
CHRISTIAN: Why should we have our festivals toned down? This is a Christian country.
NON-CHRISTIAN: Why should we be forced to celebrate someone else's religious festivals? Religion should be kept separate from people's daily lives, otherwise where do you stop? When does acknowledging the majority become offending the minorities?
It's also worth noting that a lot of these instances of crazy political correctness are just one-offs. Have you heard anyone say "mind-shower", for instance?
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Post by bobwinkle007 on Oct 2, 2006 23:49:33 GMT
Health and Safety, like Political Correctness, was initially a good idea, but is now a hindrance e.g. playground equipment being removed coz they're too dangerous and children might sue. I think it's best discussed in a separate topic. Good job, Cranky. Now you've got me all worked up. Brace yourselves for.... Bobwinkle's
$#$%****Rant Mode!!!!!!111111oneoneone!!!!*****^%#$$# [/center] I think that the playground of my generation will always be remembered as the "Golden Age" of playgrounds. About a mile away from my house there was the best park in the world. It had a giant boat right in the middle of it. A giant boat! We're talking two stories high, at least! There was a vertical, metal ladder going right up to the top of it. Only the bravest and oldest went up there. It took me until I was nearly seven years old before I mustered up the courage to attempt the climb. But why would one do this? Why would someone risk life and limb to climb this structure. Three words: Biggest Slide Ever. That was the reward. Sure, there was sand at the bottom of the boat, but would it really cushon your fall that much? I think not. It sounds like that greatest thing ever, right? That's why they had to tear it down. The greatest playground ever. Torn to the ground. Replaced with the generic plastic playground equipment. Why plastic? I want wood! Wood that I can get splinters in! Wood that I can carve my initials in! Metal would even be ok. But why the plastic? That boat was a testament to the "Golden Age" of playgrounds. Back when every playground had something special about it. Something special that was somewhat dangerous- but exciting- and always very fun. I feel so sorry for my children who will have to play on that generic playground equipment. I guess that's one more thing that I should be thankful for. End Rant Mode
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Post by Ronnie on Oct 3, 2006 0:28:03 GMT
People are too protective of their kids. When I was little, broken bones and splinters were just part of growing up. Putting all these restrictions on playground equipment is not going to make it any better.
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Post by Cranky Conner on Oct 3, 2006 16:05:10 GMT
I can sympathise with you bobwinkle. The playground opposite my house used to be made out of wood, had a sort of hut on stilts (that got graffitied on, not that I'm against that, and big kids would climb onto the roof, even though you weren't meant to do that), a wooden bridge, a large slide, a large rope climbing frame that reached to the sky (that I never liked) and two wooden horses. But now all that's gone, sure, I s'pose a see-saw, a very small slide you can't fit on and a merry-go-round that makes one vomit are good-not!
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Post by Mafew on Oct 3, 2006 16:13:13 GMT
I under-stand how stupid the whole removing the playground equipment is, cos kids ain't kids if they don't mess on big things, they were there to stop us hanging around building sites n places. But work-place H&S is good
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