Tom
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Post by Tom on Aug 18, 2012 5:56:09 GMT
almost all the modern songs are just muddy reflections of eachother.
with a few exeptions *cough* elbow *cough*
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Post by railsimrocks on Aug 18, 2012 18:27:01 GMT
In some places modern music has reached a point of stagnation, especially in the kind of music I listen to. (rock and metal music)
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Post by Knuckles on Aug 18, 2012 23:38:46 GMT
almost all the modern songs are just muddy reflections of eachother. with a few exeptions *cough* elbow *cough* I think most modern music is pap apart from Metal on the extreemer ends. Bit of a Metalhead me. Nearly all Pop music is to me the same, no energy, soal or anything. Just plastic and going through motions for money, there are exceptions but generally I loath most 'normal' and modern music. Nice Immortal GiF BTW, Beyond the Northern Waves Is my favorite I've heard. Blackyrsh Mighty Raven Dark or however you spell it is good too.
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Post by arnoldthomasfan95 on Aug 19, 2012 2:11:15 GMT
Well to me Mass Marketed Music peaked during the late 1980's & early 1990's after 1993 has stagnated since. The real music is at the clubs and street venues now as it was before mass media existed
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Post by Skarlouie on Aug 20, 2012 9:59:01 GMT
Well to be honest when it comes to music, I live in the past. 70/80/90's music is the kinda stuff I listen to. Such as: David Bowie, Madness, The Jam, Adam and the Ants and more. I cannot stand the stuff which is being made mainstream nowadays. No thought whatsoever, if you want to like modern, up-to-date music you would have to look on X FM where the modern music they play is much more indie than the modern s**t such as Nicki Manjj
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Post by Evening Star on Aug 21, 2012 9:11:37 GMT
Music is what you look for primarily. I know plenty of bands that are really good, if not "mainstream" so to speak. Stratovarius and Kamelot are two I can think of, and I've heard songs from artists I don't even know the names of that have really caught my ear. If you want quality in modern music, you have to go panning for gold.
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Post by Andrej on Aug 21, 2012 14:10:56 GMT
My views are thus:
Modern day rock music is quite enjoyable. It is the only genre I listen to, and it has produced some gems such as OneRepublic... a band, who, I might add, often gets confused with rubbish like One Direction... I should know, because the very same thing has happened to me once!
Rap is a bit of a hit and miss. There are a few decent songs which crop up now and again (mostly by Linkin Park), but the majority of it is vulgar, violent and inappropriate in all definitions of the word.
Pop... well, I know I'm going to get hate for this, but the way I see it pop is split into two major categories:
a) Songs which, while not always with the most original lyrics, at least have a good beat and are not grating on the ears b) Songs which don't have original lyrics and are made by untalented hacks and are incredibly grating on the ears
I can tolerate when a song from option a) comes on the radio, but I get really p*ssed off when option b) comes on and my family demands that we leave it playing. Songs from option b) are usually produced by artists such as Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Kesha, Taylor Swift, and Nicki Minaj.
That's my opinion.
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Post by wildnorwester on Jan 3, 2013 0:55:04 GMT
One of my favorite songs says it best:
"Today's music ain't got the same soul. I like that old time rock'n'roll."
Personally, I find that most of today's music is just variations on a theme. I prefer music that has some meaning or a story to it, such as 'Maggie May' by Rod Stewart or 'Life in the Fast Lane' by Bob Seger.
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Post by nodrog93 on Jan 3, 2013 5:18:01 GMT
I like music from 80's alot. Give me that 80's pop anyday as well as some old skool rap such as Grand Master Flash, Kurtis Blow, etc. There's not much music I like from this time aside from the occasional. I'm not calling it bad or anything it just doesn't interest me as much as the classics. The Mo-town musix even gets me bopping, and toe tappin' more than the modern day music.
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Post by Charlie on Jan 4, 2013 2:14:04 GMT
Give me Queen or Beethoven any day. Though I do appreciate a select few more modern artists, (Cee Lo Green, Rick Astley, Twisted Sister, to name some.)
My list of singers I dislike, however, is much longer. Pity me, for my sister has the nerve to blast Bieber at the top volume without any consideration for me or my parents. If I ever met the guy, I'd probably beat the sparkly, glittery snot out of him. Freddie Mercury finished his final concert in style when he was dying of disease, but this Beiber fellow doesn't have the guts to finish a concert when he stubs his toe. Literally. That has happened.
Also, does anyone notice how much more lyrics are being repeated these days; and how much more they involve innuendo, promotion of drugs and guns, treating women like objects, and so on?
These days, you don't necessarily have to write songs, or even sing unassisted. Just write some lyrics that rhyme, which last for about a minute, counting synthesized music, and repeat what you've come up with until you've managed to produce a track that lasts three minutes or so. I know people who weren't aware people who sang in autotune edited the track, and that wasn't their actual voice. Autotune, to me, is cheating when it comes to singing, because it isn't technically entirely coming from your vocal chords. If you can't sing entirely on your own, how much more talented than you who someone who's never sung in their life? Tell me if you've ever seen Beiber, Chris Brown, Li'l Wayne, Kanye West, or Ke$ha in concert without a microphone of any kind.
People these days don't sing to enlighten, enrapture, entertain, or charm others. They sing for the money in their pockets, not inspiring their audience. Justin Beiber spent all his money taking Selena Gomez to Paris and such, while his grandmother Kathy slaved away in a steel mill, while her husband was unemployed. True story. It's not slander, it's truth. You'd be amazed what else record companies hide about their singers to keep profit coming in. The singing business is no longer a business about singing. It's a business, nay, an enslavery, of anyone who will listen to music so long as it's recommended by 'Top 10s' and such, which are rated on sales of music, and not critical opinions.
Modern music my foot. Call me a nostalgia freak, but the '80s and backwards were mostly better in terms of creativity, imagination, safety and lack of crudeness in lyrics, quality, uniqueness, and actual use of voices and physical instruments rather than editing of vocals and computer-based instruments. It's too easy to get famous, as well. We have YouTube to blame for Rebecca Black and such. In the '80s, you worked to sound good, rather than have gizmos and repeated lyrics do it for you. Your blood cells were, in a metaphorical sense, music notes. Music played in your thoughts when you felt different emotions. You toiled for years bringing your music up to par, and standards were much higher than they were now. You wrote for yourself. You played for yourself, or alongside your closest friends. Your band was very much another family to go alongside your parents and siblings. And when your band was in danger, you made sure you had one last hurrah, especially one that made you go out with a bang, rather than a poot. Your band wasn't shut down by the FCC, and you gave up at that. You fought for the right to entertain, and you cared for your fans rather than the contents of their wallets. When your band died, a part of you died. But you at least tried to come back, and made sure you learned from your previous mistakes.
But I'm just a nostalgia freak who obsesses over changes and is too closed-minded and negative for your liking. Think what you like.
Charlie
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Post by Ajani on Jan 4, 2013 2:37:00 GMT
If you can't sing entirely on your own, how much more talented than you who someone who's never sung in their life? Tell me if you've ever seen Beiber, Chris Brown, Li'l Wayne, Kanye West, or Ke$ha in concert without a microphone of any kind. Not a fan of a Mr. Beiber, Brown, Wayne or Ke$ha, but considering that all of these artists had to start somewhere, it's not hard to imagine that they did one sing & rap without these aids. Also, it's kind of hard to sing without a microphone over a stadium of 60k+ screaming fans, don't you think? I understand that you may see new music as phony, but understand that these are still people who pour their entire beings out to one day be considered as great as the people you've mentioned. You may not see it now, but once you get to living around others with different tastes in music (college, new job etc,) you'll see that the world and music isn't as simple as it once was. EDIT: Meant to make a note here that I am a fan of Kanye West. Have been, & always will be. Also, I'm not bothered by modern music. The most important thing to me is that the artists & the fans enjoy the music. I choose what I want to listen to on my iPhone & that's it.
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Post by The Vicar on Jan 4, 2013 17:03:39 GMT
I'm not a fan of Justin Bieber, but I think people should give the guy a break. He will actually spend his time at strangers houses playing with sick kids. Yup. There has been a few instances of him dressing up and playing princess with young girls with cancer or other diseases. You probably didn't know that, Charlie the Forum Swamper.
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Post by Charlie on Jan 19, 2013 1:45:11 GMT
I am aware of that. It's all a publicity scheme. If Justin weren't to perform for those children, he'd be accused of being inconsiderate. That wouldn't go well with the press, and the studio would lose money. These days money is all singers care about, rather than sending important, morale messages through catchy rhythym. It makes you wonder just how many people these days are in the singing industry, or indeed, media industry, to inspire others, rather than for their own personal gain. I'm not saying all these things just because I hate him. (I still do.) I'm saying these things because they're applicable to more people than he.
I can remember a time when you slaved away just to get on a local radio station. With YouTube and other nonsense, people are getting famous without even trying, literally. And over half the time what they do isn't entertaining. People these days rely on how many views or how much money a media piece makes, rather than quality, to judge for themselves. You may say, "How did they get the views then? It had to have been entertaining." Again, we have YouTube to blame for Rebecca Black amongst others. If we live in a world where music is judged by quantity rather than quality, and singers need technological aid to sound appealing, what has music become?? A game? A method of brainwashing? Too easy to require talent?
If this is how life will go from here on out, then what point is there to carry on? I don't suggest we stop music. I suggest we refine it. Strip singers of their editing studios, writers and computerized instruments, and see how they fare. There's no pride in being able to sing on your own, if someone can get recognized better than you for barely trying at all.
Ugh. Modern music, indeed. It's more of a traveling circus, or a questionable restaurant menu, than a talent show, in my eyes. If only Freddie Mercury were here to give his input on this.
Your move, Hollywood.
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Post by Ajani on Jan 19, 2013 3:55:52 GMT
Do you live in a bubble kid??
Artists have been using technology since records were just produced. You go in the studio for a few hours, record and then you & the sound engineer make touch ups and try to get it to sound as great as you can before the record company gets it.
Even Marvin Gaye, who many consider to be a greater vocalist than Freddie Mercury, used technology. He did all his background vocals himself. And this was in the 60s-80s.
Technology exists. Artists use it. It's not like the days that you speak of when an artist goes in the studio for 5 years and comes out with something great. If an artist has someone writing for them, or writes and records themselves (as I'm sure you know many artists have personal studios in their homes) they can easily have new and unheard of tracks for days.
The ones that don't are resigned to the ages, and to people like you who cannot fathom that time goes on and the public's tastes change. If Freddie Mercury was alive its hard to say whether AIDs would've forced him to retire and focus on the next generation of musicians as people his age usually do now, or whether he would've kept going until he was found dead one day.
Music, like our modes of transportation and understanding of the world around us, changes daily. To practice what you imply has no realistic value in this century.
These artists sing and rap. They are in the studios night and day trying to make it for the people who matter the most, their fans. If you don't like it, grab your MP3 player or whatever you use, and listen to your favorite artists. Do not continuously bash them because they don't fit your personal standards. It is narrow minded and unprofessional.
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Post by Knuckles on Jan 19, 2013 8:23:13 GMT
As I've already said above, I'm very very narrow minded in what music I like. Extreem metal styles, most old 1920's - 40's blues, creepy ambient and other than a few isolated dubstep or underground hardcore tracks...not much else at all. I loath most music with a fervent heat. And to throw a spanner in the works, I agree mostly with both the above comments at the same time. It is possible. Both of you have great points and as I see it, a sentense or opinion needs to be applied on a case by case example rather than completely throwing everything out from either of you. I don't think Charlie is narrow minded for what he said, this thread is after all our opinions of modern music. I just admitted to being narrow minded here anyway ;D Oh yes! How many examples would you like, how many words, pages? Most: "None" Me: "Oh, I thought so." Timmy:"TIMMY!!!" Kenny: "Mphphumuphuww!?"
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Post by Charlie on Jan 19, 2013 16:54:09 GMT
Sorry, Ajani. What I meant was that singers these days rely on technology much more than they did in say, the '40s. Again, I'm sorry for being so closed-minded.
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Post by railsimrocks on Jan 23, 2013 5:12:41 GMT
Most music today is really rubbish. But then again, I listen to Black metal, and Death metal.
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Post by Knuckles on Jan 23, 2013 11:44:26 GMT
Oh please stop groveling Charley and keep your opinion. Stand by it; no one can always agree with everyone. I listen to a lot of black metal and stuff too. not all metal styles are the same, it just sounds like white.noise and screeching to the untrained ear. Its only crap if you dont like it, and with all music it is subjective.
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Post by Charlie on Jan 23, 2013 23:01:30 GMT
I was getting that vibe on the really raw and tense introduction to your Episode 8, Knux! It was very, very good by the way. I'm more or less in the same boat, but am more of a Classic Rock person, or whatever it is AC/DC sang. Anyway, I wouldn't say I'm not going so far as to grovel, but being careful with my opinions. Offensiveness isn't taken lightly on forums. Though I was offended at being told I live in a bubble. {WARNING!! OFF TOPIC!!}I know this thread isn't where I should post my dirty laundry, but it just seems appropriate for this scenario.
I suffer from one or two mental disorders, and can't help but isolate myself from others.
So yes, being told I live in a bubble stung some lot.
And I know I shouldn't use that as an excuse, but it seems somewhat fitting for this situation. Anyway, back on track. *in the voice of Jerry Seinfeld* "What's the deal with dubstep? I mean come on!!"
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Post by Kyle on Jan 24, 2013 10:01:59 GMT
Now, here is an interesting question. Modern music is a broad term, and encompasses more-or-less anything that has been produced in the last 10-15 years (depending on the age of the individual - it's a subjective thing), so there is almost no chance of anybody not liking some form of "modern" music. Now, I'll admit that I'm not a fan of "mainstream" music from the last 5-7 years - that found on commercial radio and in your big countdown charts. I find most of it to be over-produced, using too much autotune (this is the "technology" that I dislike - whilst other may have used it to insert backing vocals and such in past eras, the last few years have used technology as a crutch instead of as an enhancement in my opinion), with most artists seeming to be from the same cookie-cutter mould and interchangeable (I often find myself commenting on seeing the new "flavour of the month"), and sounding too similar too one another. And this last point isn't just me talking, this is actually been discovered to be fact: www.webpronews.com/science-finally-proves-that-justin-bieber-sucks-really-pop-music-in-general-2012-07I am, however, a fan of modern indie and alternative music. I listen to Triple J as I find it bypasses most of the "mainstream" music and focuses on less-known artists who rely more-so on their talent as musicans and less so on autotune and "corporate image". So does modern music suck? Not at all. You just have to find what your flavour is, and you will find "modern" music that has only recently been produced that you will enjoy, and in your genre too. You can't lump it all under the same banner; music is just too broad to be able to comment on it with the same sweeping brush stroke.
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