Jim Prower
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Post by Jim Prower on Oct 2, 2008 1:16:25 GMT
((suppose you could PM...wondering where our "victim" went, though...))
So, this much is clear...the victim was aware of an assailant in his room. The Idea of him being angry enough to be provoked to attack due to some boxes being opened is a little shaky in my mind...that's a pretty weak motive, as most normal people, even fervent collectors, wouldn't freak out enough to attempt to assault someone. I still think we're talking pre-meditated on the murderer's part.
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Post by Evening Star on Oct 3, 2008 2:01:14 GMT
True, true. I believe our victim was taken in for autopsy by others of our committee. As for a motive, I have hit a glass wall...Our forensic scientists have returned the room's results. Boxes opened included a dubbed "rare and discontinued" Millenium ERTL Thomas. I'll send you the fingerprints and you can draw your conclusions.
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Post by Father Austin Purcell on Oct 3, 2008 19:12:28 GMT
Regarding motives, rather than trying to work out why someone would want the victim dead, shouldn't we be trying to find out why the suspects would want to kill him? If that makes any sense (it doesn't to me when I read it out loud).
I mean, rather than thinking of a big blanket motive surely we should examine the suspects in turn for individual motives. Just a thought.
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Post by Evening Star on Oct 4, 2008 0:45:59 GMT
True, but like I said...not many people have been interviewed. I'm just the forensic scientist. Not the interrogationist.
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Post by Nicholas on Oct 6, 2008 15:05:15 GMT
The latest evidence reveals there was a scuffle in eDWaRDTHeGReaT's room before the blow happened. A boot print has been found in the mud outside the house.
Something else interesting has been revealed. A calling card has been found, slid between a shelving unit and a chest of drawers, which is believed to have slipped out of a jacket pocket when the murderer hung up their coat. This company card is for the PDSA. However, the card is not personalised and there is no name.
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Post by Father Austin Purcell on Oct 6, 2008 19:39:34 GMT
The PDSA is an animal charity, so that seems to imply somebody who works with animals a lot. Either that, or we're supposed to suspect people who work with animals.
One thing seems curious though:
Why would you take your coat off and hang it up before you kill someone? Did the killer spend some time with the victim before murdering him? Is it some sort of red herring? It seems an odd thing to do, at any rate.
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Post by Nicholas on Oct 6, 2008 19:46:21 GMT
Seeing as there was no sign of a forced entry, the conclusion has been drawn that the murderer entered the house with the victim willingly allowing to let him in. Although unlikely, it should be treated as a possible explanation.
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Jim Prower
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Post by Jim Prower on Oct 6, 2008 20:48:27 GMT
Got the phone number on the card? anything on the backside?
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Post by Evening Star on Oct 6, 2008 23:47:25 GMT
Hit and miss hypothesis: "Perpetrator entered victim's house at x hour, plausibly to reclaim borrowed objects. Victim refused, in heat of the moment perpetrator clouted victim over head with presumably blunt object, and fled."
Wide of the mark, but it's a start. Calling card yielded no useful information as far as we could determine.
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Post by Nicholas on Oct 7, 2008 23:28:57 GMT
After calling the number on the calling card, no further useful information can be revealed. They do not the whereabouts of any of their staff when off duty, and calling cards are things that are regularly misplaced and not often used, so it's not exactly like someone has acting suspiciously by asking for a new one.
Either way, this card does give us one piece of information; the suspect may have been connected in some way to the PDSA.
The theories that are coming out at present seem to be carefully interpreting and considering the information provided, and we're sure to catch our killer soon, just one or two more clues and we're bound to catch the killer...
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Post by Evening Star on Oct 7, 2008 23:52:29 GMT
PDSA...Didn't you say that a goldfish bowl was upturned on the scene? Could the aggressor have instead come by, friendly, probably nonpremeditated, and perhaps by some circumstance the goldfish bowl fell over, maybe on the victim's part. The dying goldfish threw the man into a rage, and proceeded to beat Edward until he fell unconscious and died. It's probably wide of the mark, but...
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Jim Prower
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Post by Jim Prower on Oct 8, 2008 0:31:23 GMT
...could the victim have been damp at the time of murder? A goldfish bowl is made of a heavy enough glass that it could be used as a weapon and not break.
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Post by Nicholas on Oct 8, 2008 0:38:14 GMT
The victim was in no way damp or covered in any kind of substance upon being found, and you can rest assured there is no goldfish bowl in the house. In fact, eDWaRDTHeGReaT did not own any pets.
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Jim Prower
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Post by Jim Prower on Oct 8, 2008 1:44:36 GMT
What? I guess, then, that there is a clear contradiction between the facts and what has been stated...
So I raise an OBJECTION against Evening Star!!!! You seem to know a lot about this case for having been so far away, and, yet, you've been caught in what's a bit more than an oversight...
What else have you not told the entire truth about?
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Post by Evening Star on Oct 8, 2008 1:55:46 GMT
Sorry, Phoenix Wright, I thought I remembered hearing there was a goldfish bowl overturned on the bureau...Maybe not. Anyway, I'm at a loss...reverting back to my previous theory WITHOUT the bowl...We need more information as to background. What was the victim doing prior to the incident?
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Post by Georgemiser on Oct 8, 2008 14:47:19 GMT
he was playing with his Ertl toys of course.so heres a theory.
what if the PDSA guy was a Thomas fan himself?
what if he was a friend to eDWaRDTHeGReaT?
what if he wanted his Ertl toys because he had none of his own?
what if eDWaRDTHeGReaT refused and what if there was a big fight in his room,that resulted in his death?!
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Post by Evening Star on Oct 8, 2008 23:59:03 GMT
Ah, that's a possibility...I know. Do any of his friends wear boots? And Jim, I've cleared myself. I just mixed up the report with a book I read. I live in California, how could I have possibly killed him? -fingers Ertl Bluebell-
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Jim Prower
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Post by Jim Prower on Oct 9, 2008 0:21:23 GMT
Meh, anyone could kie, it jsut seemed like it was something that someone'd use to throw people off the trail. You did present it as fact, you know.
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Post by Evening Star on Oct 9, 2008 3:04:48 GMT
Because at the time I believed it to be fact. But aside from that...
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Post by Iceman on Oct 10, 2008 11:58:02 GMT
Ummm... Just outta curiousity was anything else found around the body?
EG: Blood from someone else, hair, wet patches in the carpet?
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