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Post by Ryan on Feb 25, 2008 13:41:34 GMT
At the moment, there appears to be a shockingly low output of British homegrown TV shows, which has been highlighted quite strongly in the news and media of late. If you haven't done so already, please sign the petition to help save UK produced TV shows! www.savekidstv.org.ukAgain, it's a UK only petition, so sorry to our rest of the world members!
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Post by Halstead on Feb 25, 2008 18:41:10 GMT
That's a very interesting find you have there, I wonder if it's anything to do withthat article I posted on here last year. I may read more and sign the petition (properly) once if I've enough time. Still this may sound odd but my favourite current pre school show is In the Night Garden. I don't really watch it but my nephew goes mad for Igglepiggle and the Ninky Nonk.
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Post by PC Stratford on Mar 9, 2008 17:31:14 GMT
I found a couple of videos of about the campaign, the first one is a funny short animation and other is in my opinion, a touching montage of all those kids tv shows we loved:
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Post by Rusty Red Scrap Iron on Mar 19, 2008 21:42:03 GMT
Well I've signed it, I think UK kids shows should still be made and it keeps kids entertained and occupied without dealing with drugs, guns and gangs.
If we can have great kids shows, why can't kids of today and kids of the future.
Grange Hill has been axed by the BBC Bosses after 30 years because the BBC Bosses said it no longer reflects children's lives. In my opinion, it still does reflect childrens lives and the BBC Bosses have spoken a load of rubbish. Soap Operas don't show everything about children, that's why there was Grange Hill and Byker Grove.
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Post by Super Train Station H on May 11, 2008 21:05:39 GMT
TV is an important part of national identity, in the US just differences in state to state TV can be pretty significant.
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Post by Halstead on Nov 1, 2008 19:07:04 GMT
After nearly 6 months of inactivity I got an email specualting the petition and the governmental response to our request. All I can do now is naise my glass in victory and pray that a white elephant won't hinder their decisions. www.number10.gov.uk/Page17324
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Post by meetthesteam on Jan 10, 2016 22:55:03 GMT
I'm from Canada actually, and it seems there are so many unique TV shows from Britain that's it's quite a shame we didn't get much. We need to save and spread awareness of these to the rest of the world, especially stuff like DangerMouse, Duckula, Rosie and Jim and the early Postman Pat and Fireman Sam series!
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Post by penydarren on May 25, 2023 4:55:18 GMT
I think it's a ridiculous, chauvinistic, and orientalist thing to care about. not the individual quality of each show, but where they come from? i mean, i thought whining about imports was something relegated to that one really racist uncle that no one likes. if you don't like imports, don't create a world wide empire from brutalizing and enslaving people for their cheap (or free) labor centered around extracting the wealth from those areas and putting them into Britain. they'll gladly take coal, or iron, or spices, or any other commodity, but not, god forbid, the creative work of someone outside of the isles?
"oh no, brown foreigners are making our shows!" that's what you sound like.
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Post by Nicholas (Away) on May 25, 2023 10:14:59 GMT
I think it's a ridiculous, chauvinistic, and orientalist thing to care about. not the individual quality of each show, but where they come from? i mean, i thought whining about imports was something relegated to that one really racist uncle that no one likes. if you don't like imports, don't create a world wide empire from brutalizing and enslaving people for their cheap (or free) labor centered around extracting the wealth from those areas and putting them into Britain. they'll gladly take coal, or iron, or spices, or any other commodity, but not, god forbid, the creative work of someone outside of the isles? "oh no, brown foreigners are making our shows!" that's what you sound like. I find this to be quite a misunderstanding and mischaracterisation of the original intentions of the petition. I have not seen anything posted above that holds the racist sentiment that you have stated 'whining' is happening over, and your post straw-mans what were legitimate concerns about the industry. No one is making an argument not to include imported television. No one is making an argument that supports enslavement. No one is making an argument that wealth needs to be extracted from other areas and put into Britain. The spirit of the petition seemed to be to maintain as opposed to challenge diversity in children's television content. To preserve an industry and to help preserve the jobs of people who work in those industries, such as at Aardman Animations, Astley Baker Davies, Blue Zoo Animation Studio, Cake Entertainment Ltd, Collingwood & Co., Jellyfish Pictures, Karrot Animation, King Rollo Films, Magic Light Pictures, Paper Owl Films, Ragdoll Productions, Studio AKA, to name a few. Companies that make productions such as Wallace and Gromit, Peppa Pig, Pablo, Sarah and Duck, the Twirlywoos, Hey Dougie!, The Gruffalo and In the Night Garden. I would very much believe that the employees of those companies do have the individual quality of each show in mind, and that their wish for the survival and continuation of the work that they do is not based in chauvinism or racism. The main concerns with the petition seemed to be with the internal UK-based problems, as opposed to being concerns with externally-sourced output. And the government, seemingly acknowledging and agreeing with the validity of the original concerns that were the causality for the petition, has since responded (as is detailed here: kidscreen.com/2023/03/15/uk-reforms-boosts-kids-tv-tax-credit/) by reforming tax relief schemes that should benefit children's television and animation industries in the UK.
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Post by Ryan on May 25, 2023 15:31:24 GMT
It's more about keeping programming which reflects the culture of the country. We're fortunate in the UK that we get imports / translations from the USA, Canada, Australia, Japan, France and others to name but a few, but they're showing a different world to the one we live in.
I grew up with Grange Hill, Byker Grove and other British TV shows that told stories unique to the area they were set in. That kind of thing is important, and gives people a voice.
The argument isn't against imports, but rather keeping our own entertainment and film industry alive, as well as maintaining elements unique to British culture, our humour, drama and storytelling, to mix with the content we receive from overseas markets.
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