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Post by Commodore on Sept 23, 2006 2:31:35 GMT
I would have to say "The Next Generation" is the best of the best (it has the one of my all time favourite character, Data).
Also, use this thread to discuss the franchise.
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Post by Chris on Sept 23, 2006 10:09:04 GMT
I went for Enterprise. It was a fresh, clever idea to continue the franchise, had great characters, music and storylines (mostly). Plus it was the only Trek show I've managed to follow all the way through.
The Next Generation would be a close second, as it had some of the best characters like Data, although I've yet to see all the episodes.
The Original Series was ok, but some of the episodes (that I've seen, anyway) were a little boring. I did enjoy most of the movies featuring TOS cast, though,
Not watched a lot of DS9 or Voyager, so I can't say much on them.
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Post by Crscottjr on Sept 23, 2006 21:35:59 GMT
Granted my dad's a First-Gen Trekkie, and I've only seen Amok Time and The Enemy Within, but I'm one for TOS. Oh, and BTW:
This one goes out to the 'UFO' fans out there....
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Post by Truro on Sept 23, 2006 23:45:35 GMT
I voted DS9. Its the one I watched the most, and I grew to love the characters, (Keira is sexy ) Also the Defiant is one of the coolest ships I've seen in the series.
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Post by Commodore on Oct 6, 2006 1:45:56 GMT
Wow, I just saw probably my new favorite TNG episode: Deja Q. Wonderful interactions between Worf and Q, not to mention, what's better than to see Q "suffer" from being mortal?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2006 11:55:50 GMT
Lets face it all Star Trek series had times when they were the best thing since sliced bread, on the other hand some of the episodes weren't worth the paper the scripts were written on (whoops did I say that out loud!). TOS for me was just hillarious with its bad acting and some of the story concepts were just poor. TNG improved on what TOS had layed out for it with DS9 being the best and worst rolled into one, it needed a decent war to keep it going. I can't say much about Enterprise but the modern writings made it one of the best, but it didn't last the 7 seasons that the others did. Voyager however was new and fresh, with nearly all new species with one or two other favourites rolled in too and the finale, well if you haven't seen it and like the Borg, your missing the best Borg episode. Oh yeah there were some small things like 7 of 9, Kes, Torres etc.
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Post by Commodore on Oct 7, 2006 14:13:07 GMT
Lets face it all Star Trek series had times when they were the best thing since sliced bread, on the other hand some of the episodes weren't worth the paper the scripts were written on (whoops did I say that out loud!). Indeed. I've seen A LOT of TNG episodes that didn't seem to warrant the need to be watched (not bad just boring). TOS for me was just hilarious with its bad acting and some of the story concepts were just poor. TNG improved on what TOS had layed out for it with DS9 being the best and worst rolled into one, it needed a decent war to keep it going. I'll have to agree with you there. Watching some TOS episodes made me feel, eh, uncomfortable. The corniness (I don't think this is a word), over dramatic music, Meh story lines, etc. However, I haven't found an horribly bad TNG episode, just some quirky Law & Order/Soap Opera-esque plots. Can't say much on DS9 but it looks interesting. I can't say much about Enterprise but the modern writings made it one of the best, but it didn't last the 7 seasons that the others did. From the handful of episodes I've seen (2 or 3), I haven't seen the big appeal to it. It also seems to be the most disliked spin-off amongst the Trekkie community (something along the lines of it disrupting ST canon). I don't know, I'll have to watch more episodes (I can't take other people's opinions as my own). ;D Voyager however was new and fresh, with nearly all new species with one or two other favourites rolled in too and the finale, well if you haven't seen it and like the Borg, your missing the best Borg episode. Oh yeah there were some small things like 7 of 9, Kes, Torres etc. Now this hasn't aired for quite awhile now on TV where I live, so I can't get into discussions much with Voyager. It does look like it went back to the roots of ST.
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Post by FlyingScotsman on Oct 9, 2006 9:33:38 GMT
As I've said, my favourite is TNG. But I'll admit that it wasn't all perfect all the time. The early ones in particular had a tendency to either look like rip-offs of TOS or are so preachy as to make them uncomfortable viewing. Not in that "My goodness, they're right," way, more in that, "My goodness, they're so late-1980s California" way. And I'll say it again - why do they have a counsellor on the bridge? She should have a tiny office at the back of the ship. If you need counselling that much, maybe you should consider a job where you don't get shot at every week. And what's the deal with the dudes in miniskirts? There's a reason men don't wear skirts, and that is because they have awful legs.
Having ranted that, I think the episodes 'The Best of Both Worlds' and 'Darmok' are my favourites. Note that they are from the post-preachy era. I might have to disagree with Jaquin on this - I think BOBW is the best Borg episode.
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Post by Cranky Conner on Oct 22, 2007 13:20:04 GMT
*Bumps thread* You may want to have a look a this. This turned up on a forum recently, it's Gene Roddenberry's original idea of the Enterprise-D bridge. www.ditl.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=536The bit at the back is good but everything else in that image is whack. It resembles Ten-Forward more than a bridge. So anyone heard the latest stuff on the Trek Movie? It's a good thing Matt Damon isn't playing Kirk, I'll say that. I'd just like to know though, have they confirmed it's going to be set during Kirk's academy days or what?
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Post by Granpuff on Oct 22, 2007 20:51:07 GMT
TOS?? When I was watching it, it was just 'Star Trek'. And it looks cheesy now, retro-camp funny, but then it was state-of-the-art effects, years before Mr Lucas started making SF films, and had us enthralled. The ensemble mixed-race cast was also revolutionary in its day, Uhura in her sexy red mini-uniform and Scotty, glad to see a Brit had made it out there, and Spock, one of the most genius characterisations ever, underlining that the humans were inclusive enough to allow an alien on board, making human racial distinctions irrelevant.
The animated series was watchable but just not as good. By the time TNG appeared I was out of the loop and I have only ever watched a handful of episodes. They were good though.
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Post by Cranky Conner on Jan 19, 2008 15:32:32 GMT
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Post by number1 on Jan 19, 2008 21:53:35 GMT
TOS has aged very badly, almost unwatchable after the newer seasons. I downloaded most of the episodes (from all seasons) over the summer, finished off with TOS and gave up when it came to watch the TOS ones. As for my favourite, it was a toss up between TNG (my username comes from picard calling riker 'number 1') and voyager, then I gave DS9 a chance and liked the way it was different. I can't really decide between the 3 24th century series.
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Post by SRapi on Jan 20, 2008 7:14:41 GMT
My vote went for Voyager, but it was hard to decide between that and the original Star Trek.
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Post by Oliver Cromwell on Feb 5, 2008 18:55:58 GMT
Voyager. Definitely Voyager, if only for 7 of 9. Here's something I found on youtube for those of you who debate over Kirk/Picard. It's a fan made trailer, but it's so well put together that you could mistake it for the real thing! [glow=red,2,300] Star Trek XI: The Wrath of Kirk[/glow] (Any idea how you convert a link into a single word/phrase?)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2008 8:20:17 GMT
To be honest I actually preferred the movies over the series, I loved Wrath of Khan and the Undiscovered Country. Loved the Enterprise A, can't wait for the new Star Trek film
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Post by Crscottjr on Feb 9, 2008 18:08:14 GMT
TOS has aged very badly, almost unwatchable after the newer seasons. I downloaded most of the episodes (from all seasons) over the summer, finished off with TOS and gave up when it came to watch the TOS ones. Good point... As of present in the States, CBS-Digital (whom appears to have liscenced the original & following show sequels) has been clearing up TOS' 35mm prints and adding the occasional CGI special effects, whilst keeping with the original context of the stories. This High-Definition 2006 "remastered" version has been getting more attention by the day and proves even moreso that the even with the new effects, old-school Trek's greatest strength was it's character development. Check this out: trekmovie.com/tos-in-hd/
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Post by number1 on Feb 10, 2008 14:46:47 GMT
I wasn't really refering to film quality, as thats simply down to the technology of the age and couldn't be helped, I was refering to the fact that TOS was a product of its time, where sci-fi meant encountering strange entities with mysterious powers. what I like about star trek is its set in our own universe as a theoretical future, using our history (up to production dates) and proper scientific theories, and it mirrors our own much more, yes there are still are traces of beings of fantasy in the spin-offs (Q, the bajoran wormhole aliens...) but they are a lot more rational, the situations a lot closer to real life, plots that make sense and with variety (a friend once commented that TOS episodes are vary formulaic, mostly revolving around Kirk and Spock investigating mysterious, McCoy joining them later on in the episode... I forget the rest of what he said), with more interaction with the existing universe, not just focus on one ship seeking out new life, but also the ship/station being placed in its context within the galactic regional situation (especially DS9, but also the enterprise D's long term involvement with the klingons and cardassians, Voyager's involvement with delta quadrant species like the kazon sects and the nx-01's involvement with the disputes between vulcans and andorians) .
I hope someone understood that, I certainly didn't, to sum up, it seems to have aged badly in its approach to sci-fi in general, seeming irrational compared to the more true to life spin-offs.
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Post by Granpuff on Feb 10, 2008 18:00:01 GMT
A generic TOS episode goes like this. 1. Enterprise arrives at a new planet. Some disturbance makes the bridge shake to throw people wildly around. Uhura's connection with Star Fleet is usually lost at this point. 2. Kirk and Bones and/or Spock beam down with a party of crewmen. 3. One of the crewmen dies a weird, grotesque death. 4. After various alarums and excursions, Kirk and what's left of the team beam back up to Enterprise. 5. The Enterprise is tested to the limits of its ability to fight/defend/get away quickly, but Scotty always manages it. 6. The end, Warp factor 6. I just loved those catchphrases - "phasers set to stun" (now a reality with tasers), and the "captain's log" - a famous playground dirty joke, and don't forget "Beam me up Mr Scott". The sliding doors with motion sensor - common enough now, but exciting when all the doors we knew about had hinges. I wasn't really refering to film quality, as thats simply down to the technology of the age and couldn't be helped, I was refering to the fact that TOS was a product of its time, where sci-fi meant encountering strange entities with mysterious powers. what I like about star trek is its set in our own universe as a theoretical future, using our history (up to production dates) and proper scientific theories, and it mirrors our own much more, yes there are still are traces of beings of fantasy in the spin-offs (Q, the bajoran wormhole aliens...) but they are a lot more rational, the situations a lot closer to real life, plots that make sense and with variety (a friend once commented that TOS episodes are vary formulaic, mostly revolving around Kirk and Spock investigating mysterious, McCoy joining them later on in the episode... I forget the rest of what he said), with more interaction with the existing universe, not just focus on one ship seeking out new life, but also the ship/station being placed in its context within the galactic regional situation (especially DS9, but also the enterprise D's long term involvement with the klingons and cardassians, Voyager's involvement with delta quadrant species like the kazon sects and the nx-01's involvement with the disputes between vulcans and andorians) . I hope someone understood that, I certainly didn't, to sum up, it seems to have aged badly in its approach to sci-fi in general, seeming irrational compared to the more true to life spin-offs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2008 23:21:50 GMT
For all those who are interested, the new Star Trek Movie has been pushed back from this Christmas 2008, to Summer 2009, i personally am looking forward to it!!
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Post by Cranky Conner on Dec 22, 2008 17:33:51 GMT
I would like to ask if anyone has heard of Majel Barrett's death. Majel was Gene Roddenberry's wife and was the voice of the computer, as well as Nurse Chapel (from TOS), Number One (from the TOS pilot), and Lwaxana Troi (from TNG and DS9). She was also the only actress who has had a role in all Trek series. Her final role was recording dialogue for the computer in Star Trek XI.
Rest in Peace, Majel Barrett.
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