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Post by FlyingScotsman on May 12, 2006 12:34:20 GMT
Well, there's a lot to talk about here... Re the game, it sounds like they're out to shock more than anything.
Re the social worker, I do understand your problem. I've been working with a charity for children with learning difficulties recently, and quite often it's the case that people would rather shift the problem than deal with it directly. In fact, the work I'm doing is devising cartoons for a calendar that satirise the buck-passing blame-shifting weasel words tendency.
As for the Paul chappie, if he starts doing the mimicking thing again, a good comeback might be, "Well, that's original. I bet nobody's used that before." Don't attack him as such, but you could try asking him why his opinion should matter to you.
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Post by dragonfox on May 19, 2006 21:06:47 GMT
Speaking on the subject I think it is sick that Rockstar games are creating a game based on bullying called Bully. The bully just gave some poor lad a swirly The bully kicking someone This game is by Rockstar the same company who made Grand Theif Auto. I can't beleave they would make a game out of something which hurts a lot of people in real life. What Do you think? I think that this is lower than limbo-men's ankles... GTA is a bad enough influence on society as it is but to make THIS sod of a game is a TERRIBLE move. I'll never buy a video game again after this... I dreamt that everyone in my school was bullying me this morning, saying that I smelt of beer and telling me to shut up. That and I was bullied off of two forums recently just because I had a dark view on life. And no, I couldn't report the bullies to the staff because Forum 1's staff failed to stop the argument and Forum 2's staff WERE the bullies!
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Post by Chris The Xelent on May 19, 2006 22:13:39 GMT
Well one thing's for sure. You won't be bullied off from here Dragonfox. You're among friends.
It sickens me that they're releasing a game about bullying. This could easily lead things to get even worse in schools and colleges. Heck, even universities. I once knew someone who was bullied out of uni by her flatmates. Apparently they organised a rota for tidying the rooms/cleaning the dishes ,etc. in their flat and whoever didn't wash them had to pay the landlord compensation (or something like that). And she was put down for two times in a row without her knowing it. In the end she had to pay £50 compensation. And the very next day, she turned up at her mums home saying that she'd dropped out. Such a shame. She's was a really bright girl with great potential to do really well. She went back to the same uni the following year and made a fresh start though, and she's now doing allright. But she's still feeling a bit shaken by what happened.
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Post by FlyingScotsman on May 19, 2006 23:04:46 GMT
Ah, housemate trouble. I had a fair bit of that in my second year. I'll try to explain it as simply as possible. Basically, I was supposed to be moving into this house with one person I knew and two people I didn't. Unfortunately, the person I knew dropped out and it was too late to find somewhere else. A new person was brought in.
Anyway, within a few months, I found myself feeling increasingly excluded. The other housemates were becoming distant, even hostile towards me. I had no idea why this was. I found out shortly before we were due to move out that the new housemate had not made herself popular with the other two, and so had been shifting the blame for whenever she messed something up on to me. Ruined my second year, and I did tell New Housemate exactly what I thought of her. The words "two-faced", "spoilt brat" and "stupid child" were some of the phrases I can repeat here. Let's just say that when you've had an awful year due to someone's cowardice, you don't hold back.
Housemate bullying is worryingly common- it messed up at least three other houses in which friends of mine lived. It's actually inspired the book I'm working on at the moment, which is basically a guide to sharing a house. So at least some good will hopefully come of it.
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Post by CPK on May 20, 2006 14:34:56 GMT
I happened to notice in a newspaper the other day that there was a website set up about a boy (who cannot be named for legal reasons) by his bullies..... I'll leave it to the imagination what was on that site.
I didn't read the article, although it just goes to show how low and pathetic some people can be today.
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Post by dragonfox on May 20, 2006 18:57:37 GMT
I happened to notice in a newspaper the other day that there was a website set up about a boy (who cannot be named for legal reasons) by his bullies..... I'll leave it to the imagination what was on that site. I didn't read the article, although it just goes to show how low and pathetic some people can be today. I remember reading something similar a couple of years ago. A girl had made a website about her 'victim', threatening to kill her and such. She now has a criminal record.
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Post by jockarlesdale on May 20, 2006 19:07:52 GMT
It sickens me that they're releasing a game about bullying. This could easily lead things to get even worse in schools and colleges. As I remember, Rockstar made a game that lead to an accident. The game "Manhunt". Some kid went into school with a knife and stabbed another kid [His Enimy] in an attempt to demonstrate a move from the game.
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Post by dragonfox on May 20, 2006 19:55:08 GMT
All the people in that thread, and possibly that forum, are freaking sick and stupid folk. If I were you, I'd get out of that smeg-farm right away. ANYONE who thinks that promoting 'Bully' as a positive effect on society needs their f**king head examined. I'm going to go and say that video games are now the spawn fo Satan. Apologies for the strong language.
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Post by bobwinkle007 on May 20, 2006 23:53:19 GMT
All the people in that thread, and possibly that forum, are freaking sick and stupid folk. If I were you, I'd get out of that smeg-farm right away. ANYONE who thinks that promoting 'Bully' as a positive effect on society needs their f**king head examined. I'm going to go and say that video games are now the spawn fo Satan. Apologies for the strong language. That is scary. One can only hope that these people can take out their rage on virtual characters instead of real people. To some minor bullies, I've found that a good way to beat them is by kindness. I'm not talking about bullies who actually try to hurt you, I mean the bullies who are just rude and disrespectful (or the bullies who minic your voice...) Politeness drives them crazy, I swear. I don't mean that you should kiss up to them, but say "Bless You" when they sneeze or hold the door open for them. It's an easy way to deal with some bullies.
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Post by FlyingScotsman on May 22, 2006 0:41:39 GMT
I'm in two minds about video games as an influence. I tend to think that if someone's unhinged, they'll commit violent acts whatever they come across in their life. Video games are an easy target when some antisocial toerag starts tearing up the town, but I do think it's as much the responsibility of the parents.
On the other hand, games like this, which glorify bullying, are not to be encouraged. Bullying is a real problem. If you say to kids, "Bullying is cool, the victims deserve it because they aren't cool," then of course it'll have a negative effect.
Also, apart from anything else, this is such a blatant attempt to shock. The games company know they're going to cause uproar - no right-thinking person could see a game like that without having an opinion. So everyone will know about it. The publicity will be huge and so, unfortunately, will the sales.
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Post by thommob1987 on Jun 26, 2006 13:29:53 GMT
I have bullied a lot ever since secondary school. I always had insults thrown at me, objects (such as coins and stationary) hurled at me, even younger students making offending remakrs at me. After 5 years there (plus another in sixth form) I was glad to get away, believe me. It still happens though from time to time, example, I was walking back home after a trip into town one afternoon and some schoolkids walking past said out loud at me "I'll bet he's a homo" probably cause of the way I walk as I'm double-jointed and 1 of my feet is bent out of shape. Nowadays, that is the only bullying I get when people say I am a homo when I ain't!!
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Post by stuart7 on Jul 13, 2006 9:43:38 GMT
I'm not saying getting bullied is a good thing, but it looks like this thread is turning into a place for people to let of steam, and it's only making you feel worse..... I agree with Keith, positive thinking is the only real way to combat it. Sure, let off steam and such, but don't let this thread be a means of complaining then doing nothing. Just merely posting doesn't mean anything and won't change the world around you. YOU need to get out there and turn things around for yourself, figuring out how is just the first step in how to best acheive this, and believe me, there ARE ways of doing it. The first thing you need to do is think positive and believe you can! You have a point, but the trouble with the world nowadays (especially schools) is that, in the words of Margaret Meldrew, nobody does anything about anything. If I complained of being bullied in Coedcae, I'd always get some answer from teachers as "Just as ignore 'em" or "Go to the police" or, worst of all, "What do you expect me to do about it?" Ah, well, at least there's no bullies in college now. To say I was glad to get out of Coedcae would be putting it very mildly. Stuart
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Post by jake on Jul 13, 2006 23:22:38 GMT
Have there ever been times when you felt as if you've been bullied in your own home? There have been for me, several times. The reason is simple: My Father Whenever he's pissed off about something, he always takes his anger on my Mom and I. Weither it's banging, screaming, shouting, whipping, you name it, he does it. Like today for example, he was mad because he didn't do something yesterday that he REALLY wanted to do. He started his frustration by screaming for me to wake up. Then I tried to have some breakfast, but he told me to get up off my overweight ass, and get the hell dressed. I was trying to eat, but he took my food and slung it across the room. Then he blamed everything on me and made me clean it up! Later, he was an ass all the way to the farm where he works, and he made me sit in front of a gate where a large dog lives. HE KNOWS I'M SCARED OF DOGS (that I don't know)!!! I was so mad, I pulled my hair out (a good chunk, but not alot to leave a spot). So I tried walking to the barn, but he told me to wait there. I was pissed by now, so I kicked his fence and he started yelling at me, saying I broke it. He came from the barn from his truck (lorry) and the door was locked. I didn't want to have to pull the lock up myself, but I waited a while when I wanted to do it. He rolled up the window and closed my arm in the window. THAT F**KING HURT!! When I got to my grandmother's, he blamed me for breaking off part of her lawnmower, when it broke off itself. The only person I can tell this to is my Mum and you all. I swear, if I have to put up with that s*** one more time I'm gonna kill...I mean... have him severly punished. I CAN'T LIVE LIKE THIS!!!! What should I do? I don't want to tell authorities, cos he'll get arrested and will hold a serious grudge with me. SOMEONE HELP ME, PLEASE!
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Post by Assassin on Jul 13, 2006 23:27:48 GMT
Report him. Definitely. That's no laughing matter in the slightest. Who cares what he thinks? He sounds mentally unstable, and you really should do something. I don't pretend to know a lot about this, but you really should. If he's as crazy as he sounds, he deserves it. If you don't do anything, things could get worse, and that can't mean anything good.
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Post by jake on Jul 13, 2006 23:31:22 GMT
My Mom said she'd talk to him and see if he could go to a doctor. Maybe that will be best for him. I can't have him taking that stuff out on me.
Not to mention he's going away for a few days, so some time away from me and the REST of his troubles should suite him well.
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Post by Assassin on Jul 13, 2006 23:32:31 GMT
Of course you can't! A shrink or whatever would be for the best.
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Post by FlyingScotsman on Jul 14, 2006 0:26:08 GMT
I agree - if someone's treating you like that, reporting them is the most sensible thing you can do. I suspect that simply talking to him won't help.
As you rightly point out, you can't and shouldn't live like that. It's not safe - people who can't control their tempers are capable of very regrettable things.
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Post by RustyFanatic05 on Jul 14, 2006 0:30:22 GMT
From the sounds of your story, it sounds like he's abused you in about everyway possible. But no matter what your father may make you try and believe, always remember, that none of this is your fault. Although may I make a suggestion. Try and get yourself into some counselling. You may find that talking to someone about this problem will help you mentally and emotionally. I know from experience. But always remember, that it will not be like this forever.
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Post by edwardblue on Jul 14, 2006 1:21:49 GMT
Carly's right, Jake! Counseling will most likely help with many situations, and who knows, maybe things will turn out for the better.
But if worse comes to worse, there's only one solution - call the police. Domestic violence is a common and widespread problem in the U.S. and nobody, and I mean NOBODY deserves to be abused.
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Post by Cranky on Jul 15, 2006 11:21:02 GMT
Well Jake, me and you seem to be in the exact same situation, here's my story with my dad.
Ever since I went to live with my father for the last years of public school, my father beated on me mainly whenever he had the chance, literally. One day I was out late and didn;t get home till late night. When I got home, Dad was on the couch, got up right when I got in, he went on about me disobeying what he had said about being out late, and I apologised. Didn't stop him from slamming me in the face.
Another incident was in the same time period, we went at it with verbal abuse because I was seeing some girl I liked. he went on and on, and then I got kicked a few times. Once in the shin, twice in the gut while I was on the ground. That night I didn't sleep, I was awake the whole night.
The most ferocious thing which happened was before I left to my mothers (My current home arrangements). He asked why I was leaving, and I told him about what he does to me and how I am fed up with his crap. He once again took one to my face, but I was so angry, so sad, and so abused that I went right back at him, hitting him in the face. He went again, and I went again, shot for shot. It ended when my mom came. Ended up flipping him off afterwards.
That was two years ago, never talked with him again, only certain occasions.
As for school bullying, this story is pretty recent.
There was this cute blond girl I met during year 10, she was fine, as were her friends. My friends and hers would usually hang out, and me and her somewhat developing feelings. One day, she was being picked on by some lad who was calling her a S*** and other things, I came up and asked what the F*** his problem was, he got P*****, and we went at it, had him on the ground, going at his face. We both got roughed up pretty bad, but noone should make fun of a girl, ecspecially around me.
And those are my stories. Both are in the past and dealt with, well, I think so.
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