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Post by Aidan on Dec 13, 2005 23:23:29 GMT
Don't let what anyone else says get to you, sodor50. What matters is what YOU think.
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Post by FlyingScotsman on Dec 13, 2005 23:54:52 GMT
I used to get some stick for Thomas and co when I was at primary school, but most of the trouble I had from bullies came as a result of my being friends with someone they really hated. When I was hanging out with him, I'd get a lot of what is known as "verbal GBH of the ear 'ole," but when I wasn't everyone would be fine with me. I think that's what helped me to develop my sense of humour- people find it a lot harder to hate you if you can make them laugh, no matter who you're hanging out with. And I think the same thing was responsible for my "I'll do what I want and if you don't like it then **** you" attitude, which has stood me in good stead ever since.
I did have people try to pick on me in secondary school for being quirky, but usually a few jokes would get rid of them. It wouldn't make the people picking on me laugh, but it would get everyone else around on my side. I know they say that "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me." Rubbish- I've always found well-chosen words to be sharper than knives.
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Post by sodor50 on Dec 14, 2005 6:03:11 GMT
Thank You Aidan your a Good Person to Me
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Post by mightmurdoch721 on Dec 14, 2005 12:03:26 GMT
there's this kid at school who beats me up (Generally because I don't fight back) And tells everybody that I know nothing about music because I don't listen to rap. That really hurts me inside because music is my life! This kid is also teachers pet, so the t doesn't do anything
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Post by Ajani on Dec 14, 2005 16:40:58 GMT
I got bullied by a kid named Brandon (si . He saied I am g*y because I like pokemon and thomas On that same day I took that comment outside and nocked the s**t out of him ;D he never bothered me again if you had told me that when I went to your school, I would have helped you bro. But there's little that I can do now.
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Post by dragonfox on Jan 1, 2006 19:14:48 GMT
there's this kid at school who beats me up (Generally because I don't fight back) And tells everybody that I know nothing about music because I don't listen to rap. That really hurts me inside because music is my life! This kid is also teachers pet, so the t doesn't do anything That is sick. I feel like throwing up now. The thing is, today's society is fueled by rap, violence, drugs and unfunny repetitive jokes. If you're not into any of that stuff, then don't expect to make a lot of friends, expect a lot of enemies. Plus, my friend is starting to listen to 'garage' music. I was shocked and appaulled, as was my form tutor! I thought you had taste! he said.
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Post by stuart7 on Jan 1, 2006 19:56:45 GMT
Even though my school-life has improved since I left Coedcae and went to college, I still get the occasional one or two (who are still in Coedcae) calling rude names, but nothing really serious.
I was walking with my mum to town the other week, when some twerps from Coedcae started jeering "Choo! Choo!" in their usual manner. We both tried ignoring them, but that didn't work. We eventually shut them up by saying:
"Yeah, you'll be turning into one soon, won't you."
They said it a few more times, then gave up. That's something, at least.
And gotsteam?, I'm disgusted at what those miscreants did to you. They should be ashamed of themselves, I mean that. The courts ought to come down on those who bully us like a ton of bricks, not just laze around and do nothing all day.
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Post by Rheneas on Jan 1, 2006 19:57:02 GMT
I know exactly how you all feel. I haven't been in any situations like gotSTEAM's, but I'm worried that they may get to be that way. There are three main people, and one used to be my best friend too. Last year was bad because I was kicked twice, punched ten times, and being made fun of for Thomas, and this girl in my class that I supposedly like(I don't). I simply cannot take anymore.
If only there wasn't a rule against beating the living crap out of people...I don't want to do this, and I probably won't, but it seems to be the only way to make it stop. They've been punished again and again(and two of them even had a fight with each other recently) and they still go at me. They're impossible to ignore and if I walk away they instantly think I hate them (*sarcasm*NOOO!!!!*end sarcasm*) and make it worse. What can I do?
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Post by OJ on Jan 1, 2006 20:01:46 GMT
there's this kid at school who beats me up (Generally because I don't fight back) And tells everybody that I know nothing about music because I don't listen to rap. That really hurts me inside because music is my life! This kid is also teachers pet, so the t doesn't do anything That is sick. I feel like throwing up now. The thing is, today's society is fueled by rap, violence, drugs and unfunny repetitive jokes. If you're not into any of that stuff, then don't expect to make a lot of friends, expect a lot of enemies. Plus, my friend is starting to listen to 'garage' music. I was shocked and appaulled, as was my form tutor! I thought you had taste! he said. I knew some one at my school who only liked Eminen only because he swears in his lyrics.
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Post by Mark Iron on Jan 1, 2006 20:10:46 GMT
that's a thing. This hip-hop culture, it doesn't help to stop the violence, it helps fuel the fire. They go on TV bragging about their guns, women, and bling, and how their so much cooler than anyone not in this lifestyle. It's disgusting!
and what makes it worse is they usually don't give a flying darn. They just go on feeling better, because they've made someone else's life a living heck for the day. That makes me absolutely sick.
and agreed who ever said high school is the best time of your life needs to have their head's throughly exaimined.
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Post by CPK on Jan 1, 2006 20:41:17 GMT
This topic displeases me.
Personally, I wouldn't recommend turning around and getting physical with someone, trust me, you'll only make things worse for yourself. I can understand how these events can mke you feel - believe me, I've been there.
Nowadays, I don't get any problems at all, well except other than the normal brother fights, but all in all, I managed to survive the bullies - and gained a sixth sense..... I can see right through people. Trust me, it'll help you in later life.
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Post by OJ on Jan 1, 2006 21:02:39 GMT
that's a thing. This hip-hop culture, it doesn't help to stop the violence, it helps fuel the fire. They go on TV bragging about their guns, women, and bling, and how their so much cooler than anyone not in this lifestyle. It's disgusting! and what makes it worse is they usually don't give a flying darn. They just go on feeling better, because they've made someone else's life a living heck for the day. That makes me absolutely sick. and agreed who ever said high school is the best time of your life needs to have their head's throughly exaimined. First thing, I personally think these people only take an interst in music like Eminem, Slipknot and Marrilyn Manson only to rebel against their parents. Second I got bullied at my secondry school. My best friend at the time was autistic (By the way some people reckon that I may have Aspegers) and they picked on him because of that and they picked on me for being associated with him. Both him and I got called a Spazz. If only they knew the real meaning of that word which they don't. I was supposed to be gay (again their definition of that word was different to mine) and stupid We were always reporting incidents like those to the teachers but they hardly did anything. I told the deputy head a few accasions but he just didn't listen. He didn't like me. We also kept telling my friends support teacher but he was no helpful. His number 1 priorty was himself. Since the teachers didn't help us. We did take things into our own hands to stand up to them. I know that wasn't the thing to do but we felt there was no other way. We Never started fights though as I believe violence makes things alot worse. I remember one specific time my friend got called a spazz and my friend said to him "takes one to know one" there was a teacher who heard all that. She gave my friend a detention. My friend had support but tthey were patronising. They kept treating him like he knew nothing. There was one time he got picked on for days and the teachers did nowt, he took it in his own hands and he ends up getting done for it and the bullies get way with it. This happend for days and he got into alot of trouble for it. All the teachers did was saying he was behaving like that because he's autistic. So to me the teachers were using the fact he's autistic to get themselves out of trouble. That really ticked me off. When I was in Y10, I was even counting the days to my last day at school. When that day came, I was ecsatatic. I haven't been back since and I have no plans to. I have not experience anything as bad as school. I remember Ryan once saying that the bullies will get what's coming to them. He's right. Most of them from my school have mediocre jobs (the way they were bragging to me, you'd have thought they'd have become a doctor or any other job which would show that they were clever), one of them is a money busker (he sings really badly. I was woth my friend when we saw him and he said that), one is in a youth detention centre and recently one bully was being cocky by driving a fast car too fast and he died in an accident. As many have said, the best years of your life happen when you leave school. I couldn't agree more. One teacher said to me once the complete oposite and I said in my head "Aw no. It doesn't get worse does it?" and about those teachers I haven't forgiven them since as I think what they did was unforgivable.
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Post by FlyingScotsman on Jan 2, 2006 2:07:05 GMT
I disagree about music fuelling bullying- I tend to think that's just a quick fix way of looking at things. Sure, rap and hip-hop promote socially questionable attitudes, but they're the symptom of society's sickness rather than its cause. What actually makes people violent is boredom, fear and anger.
Equally to blame is the lack of discipline from above. Parents who don't control their kids and teachers who can't (or won't) do anything to stop it. But what's also worth remembering is that there's only so much teachers can do in the UK. I know several people who are training to be teachers, and basically it's illegal to do pretty well anything. If you do, then as like as not you'll get some horrible parent screaming at you or suing you. It's a terrible situation that unfortunately favours the worst children at the expense of the well behaved ones.
And I absolutely don't recommend using physical violence for anything other than self defence- if you start hitting them then they'll just feel more justified in attacking you, and authority will feel justified in turning a blind eye.
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Post by mightmurdoch721 on Jan 2, 2006 3:38:45 GMT
If you were to ask all the kids at my school the definition of the term “Gay” the majority of answers would sound something like this “Someone who disagrees with my views” instead of “Someone who loves another person of his or her same gender”
When I first arrived at my new school I was very surprised about how many kids liked rap. Me and my friends at school belong in a group known as “The Multimedia Drifters” we listen to all sorts of music, we are willing to give any kind of music a fair try. However the type of music we like the most is metal and punk (NoFX, Rufio, System Of A Down, Blood Brothers etc.) and those genres are practically the complete opposite of rap, therefore, to everyone else, we are “gay”. This makes me angry because we do look a little weird (We have tattoos and piercings) but if they are going to make fun of us, please no the proper definition of the word you are using.
For the few kids that actually like rock in the school, they usually only like Green Day. I would normally think that this is fine, but one day, while talking to a kid who liked Green Day, I asked him what his favorite album by them was and he said “THEIR ONLY ONE, American Idiot!” This makes me pretty angry because if you can’t them, Green Day has released NINE ALBUMS! But that’s more of a pet peeves
So, here’s a real bully issue. For the few kids that like rock at our school, they think it takes a ton of talent to say “I’m starting a band”. It takes no talent to do that, but it takes talent to actually be a real band that does stuff. I am in a band and we performed at the school cabaret, or talent show, whatever you want to call it. Of course, this was followed by several months of not being able to escape six simple words... CAN I BE IN YOUR BAND! Of course, I tried my hardest to politely say no, but some people just have to have their way... once, my parents got a call from one kids parents, to force that family’s son into our band, but my parents are very smart people, and they said “That is my son’s band, and if he doesn’t want your son in it, you have no right to go calling this house demanding I make him in the band.” . So, I thought this was the end of my problems for that issue, but one day the kid and some of his friends grabbed bats and clubs and chased me and my bandmates around the school. Eventually they caught us. My teachers thought I was crazy when I talked about the bats and clubs, but there was no doubt, I was a bloody mess. And It landed ALL THREE OF US in the hospital! Those kids got away with it though, because no one believed us when we said it was them, believe it or not, I am a little mentally retarded, it’s not that I’m stupid, I’m just kind of slow when it comes to learning. And of course, no one believes the retard. About what I said earlier with the what people think gay means, the same can be said for the word retarded. I envy other kids, because when someone calls them retarded they can just smile and think, “I’m not really retarded”
As for liking Thomas, don’t even get me started! I get teased a lot but more beaten up, because bully’s say Thomas fans should be beaten up to knock some sense into them! I use some make up in the morning to put color to my face because I’m really pail without it, and the reason I’m pail is because I’ve lost so much blood!
At the end of the day, my bus doesn’t stop at my house. It stops at the top of a hill my house is at the bottom of. I was ambushed on the way home from school once. I was beaten nearly senseless, strapped to a skateboard and sent flying down the hill. I eventually hit a car, and it took me a while to regain enough strength to get up. At least they helped me get home faster. Nowadays I usually hide my skateboard or bicycle somewhere and then go home as fast as I can.
Usually my mom falls for “I tripped” when she asks about my bruises, but not all the time. I have been to therapy a few times, and once even to some sort of lunacy place. But it’s all really because no other parents will believe their “sweet little angel” could do such a horrible thing as beat up another kid.
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Post by Mark Iron on Jan 2, 2006 4:10:14 GMT
I'd just like to say if anyone took offense to my veiws, I apoligize. If you want to smite me for them, by all means feel free.
second off, I agree with FS, and MightyMurdoch721. FS, I agree that those two things are definately a cause. Their two that to be perfectly honest, I didn't think of before now. It would explain some of the crap I've dealt with at my schools. I admit that I was a bit hasty in writing the music comment. MightyMurdoch, your right about those two words. "Gay" and "Retard" are probably two of the most used words out there now. Heck, I've been called both so many times that anytime someone calls me either one of them, I just don't give a darn. Their basically the words people use to get a quick reaction from you. As for physical violence, I've never been reduced to that yet. Trust me when I say there's been several times when I've nearly come to blows. I've never though punched another student. It's not worth getting yourself in trouble just for that.
third, this is the reason why I don't usually post my veiws commonely on the forums. They get me in a lot of trouble.
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Post by bobwinkle007 on Jan 2, 2006 6:01:22 GMT
As Old Iron has put it, I've never been "reduced to using physical violence". I've been punched and kicked and hurt but I never once fought back. Not once. I've never hurt someone intentionally. I've been hurt plenty of times though. But I've got a lot of self control. Maybe I have self control to the point of stupidity. Should I fight back when someone punches me? I try to stay clear of violent situations, but sometimes they're just thrust upon you.
I'm a much stronger person than people think. In wrestling I can take down the strongest kids. But I couldn't ever take advantage of that.
It sickens me when people harass me. They don't know who I am, but they pick on me. I haven't been exposed to the terrible abuse that some of you have, but words hurt. A lot.
I could stop it. I know I could. But I won't. I'm better than that.
People make fun of me because of my music choices. Not because I like heavy metal or rap or whatnot. It's because I don't listen to music. I don't. I don't care. Music isn't that important to me. And to some people I'm a freak because I don't listen to music. Whatever.
I feel terrible to even write in this thread. I can't even imagine what injustices some of you have gone through.
Some of you are called "retards" or "gay" outside of this forum. That doesn't matter to me.
I'm still at this forum today because you are some of the strongest, bravest, most intelligent people I know. You like Thomas, and despite everything, you stand by your beliefs. Maybe you can't beat up the bullies or maybe the teachers won't ever trust you. But you've beaten them, because you're here, you've survived, and you still believe in yourself.
It's an honor to be in the same forum as you people. I've followed this thread closely. And every single person who's made a post in this thread deserves a badge of honor. I don't think I know anyone on or off the web who are as great people as you.
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Post by FlyingScotsman on Jan 2, 2006 16:29:27 GMT
The use of the word "gay" as an insult annoys me immensely. Many of my friends are gay, and so I find people using that term to mean "stupid", "pathetic", "weak" or any of the hundred other things it's used for extremely offensive. Generally when anyone I know uses it I tend to respond with, "How precisely is it gay? Explain its homosexuality to me." I like to think of it as aversion therapy, only with pedantry in place of electrocution.
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Post by neville on Jan 5, 2006 12:02:56 GMT
Bullies tease me all day, but I pay no attention, for they are just upset with THEIR lifes and need to make someone sad to make them feel superior. So... when I get on the bus and they say a word, I say, "Go and find something a bit more hih school related for yourself like your own HOMEWROK!" It works...
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Post by Rheneas on Feb 15, 2006 23:20:42 GMT
If you were to ask the definition of gay to 98.9% of my school, they would also say "Someone who doesn't like what I like" whereas I would not say "Someone who loves another person of the same gender as them" but "a synonym of very happy."
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Post by bocodiseasel on Mar 8, 2006 14:47:05 GMT
Some tart spat in my face today. I hate bullies! They're allways making fun of the things I like, the things I do or my weight! AND I'M NOT EVEN FAT!!!
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